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	<title>Comments on: KZAK: an open source web-based jukebox</title>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
		<link>http://trevorturk.wordpress.com/2010/02/08/kzak-an-open-source-web-based-jukebox/#comment-947</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trevor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[charlieB, watch the project on github. I&#039;ve been meaning to update it to the Rails 3 release and may that soon. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>charlieB, watch the project on github. I&#039;ve been meaning to update it to the Rails 3 release and may that soon.</p>
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		<title>By: charlieB</title>
		<link>http://trevorturk.wordpress.com/2010/02/08/kzak-an-open-source-web-based-jukebox/#comment-946</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[charlieB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Sep 2010 22:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can&#039;t wait to check it out... does this work with Rails 3? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#039;t wait to check it out&#8230; does this work with Rails 3?</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
		<link>http://trevorturk.wordpress.com/2010/02/08/kzak-an-open-source-web-based-jukebox/#comment-945</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trevor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 12:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I decided to take a demo down a while back. It&#039;s very easy to install on your own, though. Just look at the readme. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I decided to take a demo down a while back. It&#039;s very easy to install on your own, though. Just look at the readme.</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel</title>
		<link>http://trevorturk.wordpress.com/2010/02/08/kzak-an-open-source-web-based-jukebox/#comment-944</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Samuel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 12:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Trevor,
 

 
The demo is down. Any chance you could set it up again ?
 

 
Thanks ! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Trevor,</p>
<p>The demo is down. Any chance you could set it up again ?</p>
<p>Thanks !</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://trevorturk.wordpress.com/2010/02/08/kzak-an-open-source-web-based-jukebox/#comment-943</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cool! I&#039;ll check it out.
 
Thank you!!
 

 
John ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool! I&#039;ll check it out.</p>
<p>Thank you!!</p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
		<link>http://trevorturk.wordpress.com/2010/02/08/kzak-an-open-source-web-based-jukebox/#comment-942</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trevor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John, I&#039;m setting up a demo site here:
 

  &lt;a href=&quot;http://kzakdemo.heroku.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://kzakdemo.heroku.com/&lt;/a&gt;  

 
The login and password are both &quot;test&quot; ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, I&#039;m setting up a demo site here:</p>
<p>  <a href="http://kzakdemo.heroku.com/" rel="nofollow">http://kzakdemo.heroku.com/</a>  </p>
<p>The login and password are both &quot;test&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://trevorturk.wordpress.com/2010/02/08/kzak-an-open-source-web-based-jukebox/#comment-941</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi,
 
This sounds interesting - I follow and work with Soundmanager2 quite a bit. But I&#039;m note a real hard-core coder, I&#039;m someone who works more with how technologies get used by end -users... you know, regular folks. To that end, is there anywhere where kzak is running so we can just, you know, try it? It&#039;s interesting to hear about all the technologies behind the scenes and download code and all... but what does this thing do, actually?
 

 
With respect, 
 

 
John ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>This sounds interesting &#8211; I follow and work with Soundmanager2 quite a bit. But I&#039;m note a real hard-core coder, I&#039;m someone who works more with how technologies get used by end -users&#8230; you know, regular folks. To that end, is there anywhere where kzak is running so we can just, you know, try it? It&#039;s interesting to hear about all the technologies behind the scenes and download code and all&#8230; but what does this thing do, actually?</p>
<p>With respect, </p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Hooks</title>
		<link>http://trevorturk.wordpress.com/2010/02/08/kzak-an-open-source-web-based-jukebox/#comment-940</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Hooks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll second Trevor&#039;s recommendation of Warden/Devise. The most important improvement over Authlogic is definitely the simplicity of the code. I&#039;ve had a lot of trouble debugging Authlogic in the past and the simplicity of Devise is absolutely refreshing.
 

 
I am excited to try CarrierWave... ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ll second Trevor&#039;s recommendation of Warden/Devise. The most important improvement over Authlogic is definitely the simplicity of the code. I&#039;ve had a lot of trouble debugging Authlogic in the past and the simplicity of Devise is absolutely refreshing.</p>
<p>I am excited to try CarrierWave&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
		<link>http://trevorturk.wordpress.com/2010/02/08/kzak-an-open-source-web-based-jukebox/#comment-939</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trevor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Daniel, I looked at Uploadify, but I was a little disappointed because it seemed hard to customize the way it looks. I&#039;ll give it another chance, though, because SWFUpload seems to really chug with Chrome. 
 

 
Mike, I think this is somewhat of a personal choice, and everyone has different opinions about authentication. I started using restful_authentication a long time ago, and I&#039;ve had a lot of experience with it. At this point, I prefer not to use it because it generates a lot of application code, most of which is boilerplate. It also uses some constants that are stored in the plugin folder, so it&#039;s kind of a hybrid generator/plugin, which I also don&#039;t like. It also enforces one kind of authentication, and isn&#039;t based on something like Warden, which is meant to play well with other Rack apps you may be using. Devise also does a great job of staying out of the way, while still being very customizable. Devise also lets you have multiple &quot;user&quot; models (e.g. &quot;user&quot; and &quot;admin&quot; can be different and have different authentication methods). 
 

 
I tried Authlogic a couple of times, and I immediately didn&#039;t like it. Primarily, I found the source difficult to follow, and I didn&#039;t like that it enabled model validations by default. I also saw a few tweets from people I respect saying that they ran into problems with it, and ended up finding it difficult to debug. I think the Warden/Devise combo is extremely easy to understand, and the source is easy to follow. So, if you run into a problem, you should be able to figure out what&#039;s going on.
 

 
Finally, it&#039;s a an actively maintained project with some really good and responsive people working on it. It&#039;s using the new style Engines, works nicely as a gem, and they say they&#039;re working on Rails 3 support as we speak. I&#039;d say you should give it a try - I really doubt you&#039;ll be disappointed. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel, I looked at Uploadify, but I was a little disappointed because it seemed hard to customize the way it looks. I&#039;ll give it another chance, though, because SWFUpload seems to really chug with Chrome. </p>
<p>Mike, I think this is somewhat of a personal choice, and everyone has different opinions about authentication. I started using restful_authentication a long time ago, and I&#039;ve had a lot of experience with it. At this point, I prefer not to use it because it generates a lot of application code, most of which is boilerplate. It also uses some constants that are stored in the plugin folder, so it&#039;s kind of a hybrid generator/plugin, which I also don&#039;t like. It also enforces one kind of authentication, and isn&#039;t based on something like Warden, which is meant to play well with other Rack apps you may be using. Devise also does a great job of staying out of the way, while still being very customizable. Devise also lets you have multiple &quot;user&quot; models (e.g. &quot;user&quot; and &quot;admin&quot; can be different and have different authentication methods). </p>
<p>I tried Authlogic a couple of times, and I immediately didn&#039;t like it. Primarily, I found the source difficult to follow, and I didn&#039;t like that it enabled model validations by default. I also saw a few tweets from people I respect saying that they ran into problems with it, and ended up finding it difficult to debug. I think the Warden/Devise combo is extremely easy to understand, and the source is easy to follow. So, if you run into a problem, you should be able to figure out what&#039;s going on.</p>
<p>Finally, it&#039;s a an actively maintained project with some really good and responsive people working on it. It&#039;s using the new style Engines, works nicely as a gem, and they say they&#039;re working on Rails 3 support as we speak. I&#039;d say you should give it a try &#8211; I really doubt you&#039;ll be disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike H</title>
		<link>http://trevorturk.wordpress.com/2010/02/08/kzak-an-open-source-web-based-jukebox/#comment-938</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike H]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can you talk a little more about why you recommend Devise so highly over the other solutions?  I&#039;ve been using Authlogic and have been 90% satisfied with it, but i&#039;m very open to another solution.  
 

 
Mike H ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you talk a little more about why you recommend Devise so highly over the other solutions?  I&#039;ve been using Authlogic and have been 90% satisfied with it, but i&#039;m very open to another solution.  </p>
<p>Mike H</p>
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